Online Appliance Parts and Free Repair Help

Go Back   ApplianceBlog.com - Appliance Repair Forums > Appliance Repair Talk > Refrigerators & Freezers
Look-Up & Order Appliance Parts Monthly Newsletter Shop Home Appliances Appliance Blog Home Appliance News

Refrigerators & Freezers Problems with your Refrigerator or Freezer?

Search by part number or model number for best results.
If you don't know your model number - try searching by appliance type, brand or part type.


On Sale Now - Weekly Specials||Appliance Maintenance Calendar
Search Our Site First for Quick Answers!
Google
 
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old July 3rd, 2007, 02:00 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: North Bend, WA
Posts: 1
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
poko2002 is on a distinguished road
Default Ice Maker optics low voltage problem

I have been reading the many posts regarding icemaker failures with the Optics control system for various models including KitchenAid, Whirlpool and Kenmore, and reading the very good 48 page manual on the ice maker/dispensing system (www.applianceblog.com/manuals/in-door_ice4322658A.pdf). Needless to say I have gathered a lot of information. I now think I almost understand how it works. The only real issue is how the optics receiver PC board works. There is no wiring diagram for the board that I could find.

Several of the posts indicated measuring a low(35 to 65 VAC) voltage at the input to the motor control between points “L” & “N ”or between the input connector white and black wires. Since logic would dictate that this input voltage to the control motor must be 115VAC for it to operate that this is a problem. Since this input is from the optics receiver board the problem must lie within the board and it is defective. This is not the case and THIS VOLTAGE IS NORMAL AND CORRECT. It is a monitor voltage and is always present (except during a harvest). I came to the same wrong conclusion.

A SIMPLE TEST: Remove the receiver PCB and remove its 8 pin connector. Jumper pins 3 and 4(number one is at the bottom). A paperclip works well but remember this is HOT!! Turn off power (unplug) first or make sure the paper clip is taped where you touch it. This connects the 115VAC input directly to the motor control. This bypasses the optics circuit completely and if all else is working properly it will produce ice as fast as it will freeze. If it makes ice with the jumper, but not with the PCB installed then the problem probably lies in the circuit boards. If it does not work with the jumper the problem probably lies in the icemaker itself.

Pin 3 is shown on the wiring diagram (6-1) as black and is directly connected to the line voltage. On my Kitchenaid (and maybe other models) this wire is dark blue with a stripe and comes from the “Holiday mode switch”. In Holiday mode the power is cut to the ice maker and dispenser. If pin 3 is not 115VAC then you are in “Holiday Mode”.

If anyone would like a more in depth explanation of my findings please email me at mwaiken@earthlink.net.

My two year old Kitchenaid did not work with the jumper. The thermal was good, the heater was good, so I replaced the motor/circuit assembly and it now works great.
Reply With Quote
AppliancePartsPros.com, Inc.
  #2  
Old July 11th, 2007, 01:33 PM
ApplianceJunk's Avatar
Appliance Tech
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 320
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
ApplianceJunk is a glorious beacon of lightApplianceJunk is a glorious beacon of lightApplianceJunk is a glorious beacon of lightApplianceJunk is a glorious beacon of lightApplianceJunk is a glorious beacon of lightApplianceJunk is a glorious beacon of light
Default

Another quick test I do on the Optics control system is hold my camera phone up to the infrared light part on the left side of the freezer.

As with many digital cameras you can see the infrared light on the camera screen. If the light is working you will see it as a white light on the screen of the digital camera.

I don't know if this works with all digital cameras, but it does work with my camera phone and the couple point and shoot camera's I have around the house.

You can also do with with tv remotes to see if they are putting out a signel
__________________
John Pahl
ApplianceJunk.com
ApplianceDigest.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Whirpool Conqest Gold Side by Side Ice Maker Problem tadpole88 Whirlpool 13 September 21st, 2007 12:29 PM
GS5SHAXNB00 ice maker problem truesdaleg Whirlpool 13 February 2nd, 2007 11:31 PM
another Ice Maker problem KC73 Sears Kenmore 1 September 14th, 2006 12:54 AM
Whirlpool ED22DQ/RQ Ice Maker problem Rich46 Whirlpool 5 September 11th, 2005 10:16 PM
Jenn-Air Ice Maker Problem mhc Maytag/Magic Chef/Admiral/Jenn-Air 1 June 16th, 2005 12:22 AM

If you feel that you have benefited from this site, and would like to show your appreciation, you can throw a buck or two in the Appliance Blog Tip Jar - Thankyou!

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:41 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
© Applianceblog.com 2004 - 2009

SmileItsPrepaid.com