Thread: [FIXED] Kenmore Dishwasher goes to next cycle before water full

Hi, I have had many of these dishwashers do exactly what your saying, Not cleaning the dishes, Your water pressure seems fine, and none of these dishwashers are designed to fill up over the heater, thats not the problem, The problem i find on these is the Check Valve and the Chopper in the Pump is bad, If you check my blog, you will see many entries where i have fixed this same design dishwasher.

http://www.applianceblog.com/archive...er_chop_1.html

Check Valve Part#8268375




Chopper Part#8268383


http://www.applianceblog.com/archive...02_kitche.html

Model#KUDR01TJBL0 : Not cleaning/washing well, Found check valve bad, part#8268375, replaced, worked great.

http://www.applianceblog.com/archive...n_aid_dis.html

Model#KUDS01DJBL1 : Not cleaning the dishes well, Found Check valve bad, replaced, worked great.

Check Valve Part#8268375

http://www.applianceblog.com/archive...ay_sept16.html

2004 Kenmore Dishwasher(Whirlpool built): Smell oder, not cleaning dishes well, Found check valve in pump bad, replaced, worked great.

http://www.applianceblog.com/archive...aturday_1.html

Customer was complaining of dishes not getting as clean. Installed new check valve and chopper blade assembly in sump(pump). Chopper was broken. The check valve is the small rubber flapper in sump(pump) that can stick and not allow proper water flow to spray arms. Replaced both, worked great.

The Kitchen Aid and Whirlpool uses that exact same Check Valve and Chopper.

Here is a bulletin on this issue as well, all the Kenmore 665. models are made by Whirlpool:
http://adcxns1.whirlpool.com/Service...LE/8178191.PDF

Its says you need to order a new middle spray arm Part#8269024



Hope that helps.

Jake

jgaines wrote:

The water does not fill enough during the fill cycle to trigger the "full" sensor (the float).

The float and float switch are just safety devices to prevent overfilling and flooding. Under normal operation they should NEVER be activated.

The heater is not in good contact with the water because water is not high enough.

As Jake already said, it isn't suppose to be.

JFYI

Dan O.
Appliance411.com
The Appliance Information Site
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Thank you very much! I looked at the chopper in the past and did not see any problems there, except that a button was trapped on the screen. I removed the button long ago. I will have a look at the check valve. I have let the dishwasher start up and then opened the door and seen that water was spraying out of the arms, but maybe the pressure is too low because of the check valve not working right(?).

Hi Jgaines,

Its most likey the check valve , that controls the water flow pressure.

Heres a series of pictures:









The check valve is just to the right of this chopper(just out of the right side picture) Pull the Black rubber check valve up with a screwdriver, then install a new one, i bet you will see it works well after that.

Jake

Nice pics!

I also learned something!

jeff.

Thanks Jeff.

Thanks Jeff.

Hi, I have Kenmore Elite 665.16462300.

I am am trying to find a repalcement flapper valve that lives in the feed tube assembly shown in your second photo. The check valve is supposed to be opened by teh upper spray arm probe.

In my case, one check valve is always flapped open and so hardly any water goes up and out the upper spray arm. So far, onl y the $45 complete feed tube assembly is offered by Sears or other common parts sources.

My glasses were sparkling clean for 10 months or so, and now"we" have to clean them by hand (just passed a year on installation). I say "we" meaning my wife actually finally complained to me and I took apart the feed tube, checked the grinders and screens and then found your Blog.

Many Thanks for help sourcing the part. Rob

rc-b wrote:

I am am trying to find a replacement flapper valve

Click on the picture of the flapper valve (shown on a grid background) above. It will take you to a site where it can be purchased.

JFYI

Dan O.
Appliance411.com
The Appliance Information Site
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