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    Question FIXED: Why would this wire burn and melt like this ?

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    What would cause this wire (pic) to burn/melt like this ?

    The circuit breaker did NOT trip. The dryer still works (motor) but does not heat. Obviously as a result of this burnt wire.

    The wire was found disconnected and the connector was still attached to the heating element.

    I did replace the heating element about a month ago. I noticed the wires were a bit difficult to attach to the element. I had to use a pair of needle nosed pliers to crimp the connectors together. Not sure if this is relevant or not.

    Anyways, why would this wire burn like this in the first place ?

    What do I need to do to make a SAFE repair ?


    TIA
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    Hi,

    What would cause this wire (pic) to burn/melt like this ?
    A bad connection. The bad connection causes the voltage to drop so the amperage increases to compensate and the poor connection gets hotter and hotter until it burns off.

    What does the item/object/switch look like that the wire plugs onto?

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    Thank you for your reply Jeff.

    The other end was a Tab connected to the Heating element. (see pic)Click image for larger version. 

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    I did have trouble accessing the connection to get a real secure fit. It was on the inside/bottom of the dryer. I used needle nosed pliers to crimp it but don't think it was secure enough.

    Do you think the thermostat may have led to all this ? Basically, perhaps being stuck ON and overheating the heating element and connectors ?

    Should I replace the Thermostat after I repair the wire/connection ?
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    Should I replace the Thermostat after I repair the wire/connection ?
    I wouldn't yet....repair the wire/wire end and then test the dryer empty. Heat should cycle ( tested at the exit of the dryer ) at approx 120-160F on and off.

    If the heat gets way hotter or way too hot then yes the operating thermostat should probably be replaced.

    Dryer Thermostat Parts

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    I finally got time to do the repair and "think" I got it.

    I agree it was most definitely a bad connection. Certainly with the TAB coming from one end of the heating element through the outer side of the "heatsink" (???)/resistor thing.

    The other issue which I believe really overheated the wire was the poor connection of the TAB through that heat sink. I did NOT snap in to place and felt loose (jiggly if you will). This I believe made the heatsink inoperative and not absorbing the heat from the heating element as it should have. Hence, the heat continued on through to the wire. Therefore burning it up.

    I was able to upgrade the burnt portion of the wire to a lower guage (thicker) wire and place a properly sized connector to connect to the tab. I did the twisty thing to bound the wires together as well.

    My wife said to tell you... THANK YOU ! You save us several hundred dollars from buying a new dryer !

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    Looks like you got it

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