FIXED Kitchenaid Double Oven KODE300ESS00 - Fuse blowing on oven cool down

[smacaulay]

Model Number

KODE300ESS00

Brand

KitchenAid

Age

1-5 years

My kitchenaid double oven recently stopped working. After cooking two pizzas (1 in each oven simultaneously) at 425F and cooling down, the control panel went blank. The fuse tested with no continuity so i replaced it, which seemed to fix the oven. I tried the top oven by cooking a pizza again at 425F.

The fuse blew again during the cool down cycle. It looks like the cool down cycle is somehow all of a sudden providing too much current. Could i have a bad control board? Any idea where I can start diagnosing from here?

 

[Jake]

Here's the service manual for your model: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1n_MFg5qt4EFSTI2gtmju_OwvdoNGgisC/view?usp=sharing

You can activate the cooling fan on page 3-5 in diagnostics to see if you hear it running in LOW and HIGH speed.

Do you hear the cooling fan motor running when its baking?

Here's the cooling fan blower for your model:

Whirlpool W11245567 Blower (AP6339617) - AppliancePartsPros.com

BLOWER W11245567 / AP6339617 made by Whirlpool

click.linksynergy.com

Jake

 

[smacaulay]

This is awesome, I couldn't find the service manual online. I've got another fuse on order and will start reading up to test the cooling fan. Thanks so much Jake and I'll report back!

 

[Jake]

Ok sounds good, yes let us know.

Jake

 

[smacaulay]

Fuse replaced again. Error code F2E1 for stuck/shorted key. All keys work, have never had a problem (could be from when i previously removed/unplugged the keypad/control panel?). I cycled through all relays, could hear all of them click on/off for both upper and lower ovens. Cleared the error, ran bake function on both upper and lower ovens for 1min+....no error code returned.

When i cycle the relays for the cooling fans in diagnostic mode, i hear the relays click and then an electric hum...but i don't hear air moving (not sure it's supposed to?). When I bake the lower oven, i don't hear a fan come on. When i bake the upper oven i hear a fan come on...but it is the fan i can see directly in the back of the oven which i think is the convection fan (this model has convection in upper oven only). Seems weird the convection fan is turning on during a normal bake (not convection bake).

It sounds like maybe i have a bad cooling fan (or fans) as I don't hear air moving during diagnostic mode (upper/lower HS/LS relay activation), or during lower oven bake? I think my next step is to check resistance/voltage of the cooling fan. Any advice/guidance before i pull the oven out?

 

[smacaulay]

To follow up, cycling the cooling fan relays results in a low electric hum for LS, and it gets louder for HS, for both upper and lower relays. It sounds like my cooling fans are operating correctly unless i should be hearing something louder/air movement. I'm a little stumped at this point.

 

[Jake]

When i bake the upper oven i hear a fan come on...but it is the fan i can see directly in the back of the oven which i think is the convection fan (this model has convection in upper oven only). Seems weird the convection fan is turning on during a normal bake (not convection bake).

Yes, that is very strange, you may want to contact KitchenAid to come out at 1-800-422-1230 to see what's going on, seems you have multiple problems.

Wait, I just located a similar issue that another member had and it was the Appliance Manager that was bad. You model uses the exact same Appliance Manager:

FIXED - KODE500ESS01 KitchenAid double oven display went blank then one of the ovens turned on on its own...or at least the convection fan turned on

The past few days I've had intermittent issues with the KODE500ESS01 double wall oven. The other day my wife swears the oven turned off by itself. The next morning I noticed the oven light turn on then off instantly and repeated this every few minutes. I turned the light on then the control...

www.applianceblog.com

Here's the Appliance Manager for your model:
W11179310


Jake

 

[smacaulay]

I may just buy the AM, replace the upper and see if it fixes it. If not swap the new one to the lower oven and see what happens. I'll follow up with this thread when that happens.

 

[Jake]

Ok, sounds like a plan.

Jake

 

[smacaulay]

Following up with the resolution if it helps anyone else. Both relays for the upper and lower fan (high and low) were cycling and i could hear an electric hum, but the fans weren't moving (pulled the oven access covers off to visually check). Voltage was the same to both (36V on low, 50V on high). I spun both fans by hand which seems to have freed them up, and cycling the relays consistently spins the fans now. It appears the fans may have been gunked up a bit and the oven has been working since. If i have an issue again i'll pull both fans apart and clean them out/grease them. Thanks again for the service manual which helped out a ton!

 

[Jake]

Glad that's all it was.

Thanks for the update!

Jake

 

[smacaulay]

Sooooo....it's been working fine, did a long 2hr bake and it blew the fuse again. Pulled the blower and it looks ok visually, no replacement fuse so couldn't check resistance. Ordered a new blower and fuse, will check resistance on the old one upon installing the new one (and when i have the fuse). Will report back.

 

[Jake]

Sorry to hear the fuse blew again.

Ordered a new blower and fuse, will check resistance on the old one upon installing the new one (and when i have the fuse). Will report back.

Sounds good, yes keep us posted.

 

[smacaulay]

New upper fan is in and working. I tried to measure resistance of both the new and the old fans plugged in (from hot-low, hot-high in to neutral out in diagnostic mode turned on) but they weren't even close to the values specified in the manual (kiliohms vs ohms). The newer fan is a different part number and visibly different, so maybe that's intended. Lower fan is now not working, put the old upper fan in the lower oven and it works but sounds like it's pulsing/not full power (same thing as first time i diagnosed). Going to order another new fan for the lower oven and i'm thinking that should solve it. Will report back.

 

[smacaulay]

Seems odd both fans would go bad at the same time, but maybe a mfg defect with that part number providing an inconsistent speed so on longer cooks it gets hot enough to blow the fuse.

 

[Jake]

Seems odd both fans would go bad at the same time, but maybe a mfg defect with that part number providing an inconsistent speed so on longer cooks it gets hot enough to blow the fuse.

Yes, I agree 100% with you on that.

Let us know how it goes when you get the lower cooling fan blower:

Whirlpool W11245567 Blower (AP6339617) - AppliancePartsPros.com

BLOWER W11245567 / AP6339617 made by Whirlpool

click.linksynergy.com

 

[smacaulay]

Replaced both cooling fans, seems to be working fine for the past two weeks. I'll update this thread if anything changes.

 

[Jake]

Excellent, glad to hear that.

Thanks for the update!