Ok, Jake, got it installed! A relative was a plumber in the past and came over and we installed it in about 2-3 hours. We took our time. I ran one cycle, so far so good, I have all of my silverware in there now for another cycle. When I wake up in the morning, I'll hope that spotless silverware will be awaiting me .Thanks Jake. I always had them for my other appliances and they were pretty good, so that's why I asked. I got you, I know I can always depend on you guys!