Vintage Tyler Double Door Freezer---I think my compressor is toast---help?

Barbedwirecat

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I purchased this freezer from Craigslist (cheap enough to warrant it not working). No idea on the age. I'm thinking later 50's/early 60's?

Tyler Model FS25
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I was told the plug shocked you when you plugged it in so I just got done replacing and grounding it. He stated it worked 2 years ago---he had not plugged it up again since the ground issue.

Plugged it in after GUESSING positive and neg on the wires. The compressor started up, but no fan. I came back to check on it 30 minutes later---no compressor. Inside was about 30 degrees. Turned down the temp a hair, still no compressor. Another 30 minutes and temp is up to 40 no compressor. So either it just died or it overheated (or both) Fan spins freely---but does not kick on (or not that I have seen). It seems the shelves are the cooling system I don't see any area for another fan but the bottoms of the shelves are snaked in tubing.

I REALLY want this freezer to work---but is it worth it to go search out a new compressor/fan? The compressor is a Tecumseh (I have the numbers for reference if needed)

ANY help or info would be greatly appreciated as I can't even find where this poor freezer existed!

ETA:I DID unplug it for now.
 

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It may not be the compressor if it ran once and got down to 30*F. I believe we can get it figured but you'll need a VOM (Volt Ohm Meter) to take some measurements. If you could take a couple pictures of the compressor wiring and the cold control and the model tag, if it's still on the machine. Then post them here, it would be very helpful. What's the number on the compressor? Let me know when you're good to go.
 

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Thanks so much for the reply rickgburton! I was so worried I wouldn't get one.

Here's are photos of the compressor and wiring--

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I'm uploading a video so you can HEAR the sound the compressor is making as well as the freezer itself. I'll post links as soon as they are done.

I DO think the compressor vibration is causing the plug to slip out of place. I tried unplugging and then plugging in again this AM (The line from the compressor cord to the power cord) and it did kick on again---I taped it together but it feels like I might need to replace the plugs---seems like there may be a short in them. I left it to run for 1 hour and the temp in the fridge got down to 10 degrees and I did start seeing ice. I did not feel any leaks in the seal but I'm still cautious.

Still no fan. I'm worried if I run this without a fan that the compressor will overheat---it was rather hot down there after I ran it this morning for 1 hour.

I do have a digital VOM I use for my old truck---tell me where to read and I'll do it!
 

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Barbedwirecat said:
Still no fan. I'm worried if I run this without a fan that the compressor will overheat-
Well that was sure easy. That's your problem, right there. I didn't see the fan by the compressor running. If it's not, remove it and get the numbers off the back plate. The compressor sounds normal for that style. The shot of the wires made me cringe. That needs to be redone and those long ones shortened. You need a good wire connection with no bare wires showing by the wire nuts. Only strip 3/4" wire insulation then use black electricians tape to wrap around the wire nut and wire. Make sure the green ground wire is connected to a cabinet screw.
 

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Heya!
I connected the ground via a sheet metal screw since I have no accessible screws in the vicinity of the cord. Everything is welded. I'll be correcting the wire length---I wanted to make sure it would work before I shortened them ;) The original wires are falling apart and I don't have much of them left, but I'll make sure they are shorter.

The fan by the compressor is not running at all. I'll pull it tonight when I get home and get the digits The compressor is also not turning off (I wonder if I need a new relay?)

Thank you so much!! I'll post more info tonight!!
 

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Any wires that are original will be very brittle. Handel them as little as possible. Turn the compressor off if the fan is not working or you will have other problems. You should also put a strain relief on the cord.
 

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Strain relief added. All of the wires are in the little electrical box that had been previously installed.

I did not have time to pull the fan last night so I snagged some photos of the back if that helps at all---if not I'll be pulling tomorrow. It is a direct wire into the compressor side (it looks like I can take this apart too)

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I want to replace everything I need to within reason.

Any idea on the age? I couldn't find ANY info on these.
 

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